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    • August 29, 2016 2:25:14 PM PDT
    • No apology necessary friend - that's what discussions are for.
      Pleasure discussing things with you.

    • August 29, 2016 11:12:55 AM PDT
    • @MysticNick - Then I read that wrong, and apologize.
      As for the people who are playing pokemon Go, I play Pokemon Go sometimes, and trust me its not that involved of a game. If they aren't paying attention to their surroundings they deserve to get hit or walk off cliffs, I have no compassion for those people.

    • August 29, 2016 9:22:23 AM PDT
    • To return to natural abundance and an agrarian lifestyle is not a move backwards - that would be a judgment you have based on your point of view. Our food is wholly unhealthy- as are our lifestyles in this country on the average.

      To increase one's interaction with living things will restore the psychological imbalance and detachment from real time that a HIGH PERCENTAGE of the American population seem to be suffering from - so much so people are getting run over and walking off cliffs - playing Pokemon Go.

      I never said eliminate electronics - nor did I dispute that certain technology is beneficial - arduino technology to run pumps and filters and monitor PH - and oxygen and ammonia levels - all beneficial and - could even be monitored from a smart phone.

      But - 90% + of the people out there with their faces in their cell phones and in a television screen are not productive - nor will they be because the end purpose of entertainment driven technology is not advancement but stagnation and distraction.

      Also I'm in the process of building an Aquaponic farmstead and Center for Aquaponic Studies and Alternative HVAC, Power and Housing - so again I'm not advocating a return to the stone age- I'm advocating judicious and wise use of technology where it benefits mankind on an individual and social level - and discarding it where it is not and using that time to reconnect with nature - which is the basis of all life.

    • August 29, 2016 6:17:33 AM PDT
    • @MysticNick - I have to disagree, and I normally don't. Aquaponics, Hydroponics, and permaculture are unconventional farming methods, some of which are or can be entirely computer controlled. These technologies yield 2-3 times the amount of edibles than most conventional farms.

      Parts of your view have validity to me, but I make it a point never to move backwards, and always progress forward. When it comes to cellphones and TV's, most of our society is like toddlers messing with their first atari. Its a phase I believe mankind will eventually move out of. You probably see it a lot, but if you are focused on seeing the bad that's usually all you'll ever see.

      The advancements in Open Source software and hardware design have made some amazing changes. There are groups working on Open sourced CT scan machines which should take the cost of that specific machine from hundreds of thousands of dollars down to something every local doctors office will be able to afford. Others are working in the alternative farming, one of the permaculture farms in Arizona makes so much produce that they give away 98% of it, the rest is used in other products the farm creates, all the wastes are recycled.

      Our society may be filled with a large portion of complacent and zombie-ish people, but there is just as large a group of people trying to make a difference in the world. The reason you don't hear much out of them, is because they are buried in their work.

    • August 29, 2016 5:56:37 AM PDT
    • I believe that mankind needs to return to an agrarian lifestyle and reduce the influence of technology on the individual's psyche. With all the "advancements" we have developed over the years and all of the items of "time saving" and "convenience;" what have we accomplished?

      We must seek out Natural Abundance - land owned outright - producing more food and natural resources from that land than can be sold, traded, consumed or stored, and a life lived in the company of those we love -living, learning, laughing, growing and reestablishing the bonds we have with people and living energies.

      How have we benefited ourselves in anyway with dishwashers, cell phones that can distract us with any audio-visual - interactive stimulus we can imagine. We walk around all day staring at a tiny screen - to go to work and stare at a larger screen - and then come home and sit in front of the big screen with our families (if we are lucky)

      The era of the screen in the face and the phone in the hand must pass - and we must return to interaction with nature, animals, energies, family, friends and life.

    • August 13, 2016 3:18:59 PM PDT
    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxo3Jy3p8zo

      "Point of View Gun"

    • August 13, 2016 2:37:42 PM PDT
    • We need a gamechanger something that forces people to adapt the way we think (not what we think but how) about our lives and the impact we can create. We need to understand that we are individuals all of us, that most of our social bonds and limitations are self imposed, and also that our choices matter not because if their external effect but because we made them and that it changes us internally. Hopefully this makes sense and y'all don't think I'm pretentious or something..

    • July 31, 2016 8:24:55 PM PDT
    • No pain when you hit the corner of a table (Insert any furniture) with your little toe.

    • July 31, 2016 7:08:40 AM PDT
    • So what mankind REALLY needs most, is a like button in the forums.

    • July 31, 2016 4:22:50 AM PDT
    • DL - Feeling a bit sheepish. I used Open Source to aim a cheap dig at the Admin. I'm not sure this site is open sourced either, but it has that feel, don't you think? I am a fan of open source as I prefer to screw up my software beyond all recognition myself. I had a Linux platform for years, used OpenOffice and Zope for a web DB (oh dear, I am dating myself).

    • July 30, 2016 6:51:58 PM PDT
    • @SZNEL Eh, with the open source route it /can/ happen that way, but an open source route does also expose you to a much larger potential developer base. Look at Linux, after all. Plus, I don't think this site is open sourced...

    • July 30, 2016 3:50:06 PM PDT
    • SZNEL: I LIKE your comment! (If we do this enough, they'll change the format for us.)

    • July 30, 2016 3:37:24 PM PDT
    • Baelan - Me too. You'd think it would be possible to Like and Thank someone in any dimension. But apparently not. Targets are there one moment and don't exist the next. That's what you get when you use Open Source. No offence, Admin.

    • July 30, 2016 3:30:39 PM PDT
    • SZNEL: I thought this was one of those other dimensions we were talking about, converging with our own.

    • July 30, 2016 3:13:25 PM PDT
    • rsngfrce - Thank you for explaining.

    • July 30, 2016 2:50:18 PM PDT
    • SZNEL, it appears there is an issue LIKING posts made in FORUMS. You can THANK them in the FORUM though.

    • July 30, 2016 2:31:05 PM PDT
    • BillyH: Although perhaps not as desperately, I concur.

    • July 30, 2016 2:28:03 PM PDT
    • We desperately need KNich

    • July 30, 2016 2:03:23 PM PDT
    • Looking back on my comment, I haven't said a thing about wisdom, yet wisdom is indeed equally important as knowledge is to be correct, one needs both in order to be thorough. Without those two primary things I doubt any kind of evolution is possible.

    • July 30, 2016 1:15:12 PM PDT
    • I'm not sure being able to predict the outcome of relationships is "wisdom". Being able to predict the outcomes AND applying that judgement to your own relationships to avoid the pitfalls? That's wisdom. Don't be so hard on INTPs. I'm sure with the likes of Kant and Descartes in your type, INTP's are not at the bottom of any totem pole.

    • July 30, 2016 12:53:40 PM PDT
    • I see acquaintances having relationships around me all the time; and I have a very precise judgement on which ones have a chance of being successful, and which ones will fail, I flatter myself, with greater accuracy than those presently engaged in that relationship. This is also "wisdom," even though I do not personally prefer one outcome over the other. Caring does not come into it at all. I care about making such judgements as a casual mental exercise, not in terms of influencing outcomes. I hate to drag MBTI into this, but if "caring" were a necessary component of wisdom, INTPs would definitely be at the bottom of the wisdom totem pole.

    • July 30, 2016 12:32:16 PM PDT
    • Valosken - Right on!

    • July 30, 2016 12:31:03 PM PDT
    • I think Admin's Evil-Eye-Of-Sauron is occupied elsewhere. Whenever I try to "like" something I get an error message: "An error has occurred processing the request. The target may no longer exist." Which supports Wheaties assertion that we don't really exist. As targets anyway.

    • July 30, 2016 12:26:02 PM PDT
    • Knich - Thank you for the etymology of the word. Probably my background in IM/IT but I've always seen wisdom as the pinnacle of a hierarchical model not as a category of knowledge. The pinnacle where, when intelligence and other factors are applied, raw data becomes information (answers who, what, where and when), becomes knowledge (why?) becomes understanding (appreciation of the why)...becomes wisdom (why I should care i.e., evaluative understanding). Fits in nicely with "thought with reference to a precedent"and that the precedent lies below the hierarchy. I would add in relation to objects already present in the subject at the moment of their perception that with wisdom, people leap beyond the past and the present to vision and create the future.

    • July 30, 2016 12:25:30 PM PDT
    • Good one! There are a lot of false things I wish people would be willing to discard.