Can I join it please? The ENTP forum is dead.

Not exactly hopping in here, but I love how the INTJ forum has far and away the most posts.

Being an Australian, I am thoroughly enjoying the critical mass of exchanges here! The fact that there are enough people to weigh in and have an opinion (based on experience) on this very topic is novel. With such a small population we don't seem to have the numbers here to build a conversation around what I understand to be that rarest of types.....the INTJ female. Of course I could just be being true to type, and have been ignoring what is going on in the social world out there! If and when someone organises a gathering of NTs in this country, I will definitely make an effort to attend!

I think the greatest challenge each INTJ faces (regardless of gender) is the delicate balance between giving a damn about what others think about us and having any kind of social interaction at all. I guess we naturally tend to not give that damn, but it can lead to a surprisingly rapid total social isolation, something we don't really enjoy. But for a lot of us is still better than giving a damn. This is a vicious circle which makes us even more cynical about any social interaction and at the same time even more depressed as we lose hope about finding anyone who's worthy of a talk :)

PS: I repeatedly used "we" and "us" still I'm aware that it could only be "me" and "I". Just to avoid misunderstandings and getting off-topic.

I think that being an NT woman is hard, in that you don't fit the mold. Most women are feelers, and only 30ish percent of people are Intuitives. So, you often don’t provide people what they are expecting! You aren’t as emotional as most women are, and you aren’t interested in surface, shallow conversation. That can be disorienting to those expecting something different.

The grass is always greener on the other side. It would be impossible for us to be anyone other than who we are, not harder or easier.

I need to find me a INT woman (I dont think the P or J will matter much).

@Saityshell
Haha, nice explanation of an INTJ there. We're like Ents from LOTR....if theres anything worth saying, it takes a long time.....or for an INTJ, if we're into all the stuff we're into, we've invested a lot of time into it all, so we're intensely into it. I've been told by quite a few NF girlfriends that I'm intimidating, but they like it because they accept that I read more (so they say).
As for extinguishing your fire to make theirs appear brighter...as an INTJ, I'm just going to Intensely extinguish a fire with my intense water....but only if necessary, 'cause my fire is quite bright enough, thank you. :P :P

I honestly dont care if I intimidate a man, I wont tone it down for anyone. If they find me intimidating, I'm done. I want someone who will keep up. I enjoy being an INTJ. Yes I am intense, but I am also awesome. I'm fine being by myself, I can be happy that way, so I refuse to minimize my intensity so as not to scare someone off. The person who deserves to stand next to me does not want to extinguish my fire to make theirs appear brighter.

I honestly dont care if I intimidate a man, I wont tone it down for anyone. If they find me intimidating, I'm done. I want someone who will keep up. I enjoy being an INTJ. Yes I am intense, but I am also awesome. I'm fine being by myself, I can be happy that way, so I refuse to minimize my intensity so as not to scare someone off. The person who deserves to stand next to me does not want to extinguish my fire to make theirs appear brighter.

So afraid

Haha, that's why I said "charming Sheldon", to add to his personality the charming aspect of an INTJ. ;) Glad that Bernadette is spot on, but does that mean everyone is afraid of you in the workplace? "she sounds sexy when she's angry" ~Howard Wolowitz

I don't find Sheldon charming just over the top and annoying. But the Bernadette is spot on.

So, basically, if Bernadette (adorably mean) & a charming Sheldon (charmingly blunt) had a baby.....

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Its definitely harder to be an INTJ female and I'm a black INTJ female.Black unicorns. People don't know what to do with me or how to take me. Im adorably mean and charmingly blunt, if thats even a thing. And it doesn't help that I'm 4'10 and people like to pat me on the head for being cute. But when I open my mouth and actually speak they are shocked because they don't come across women like me everyday. I find it more amusing than offensive.

"When....the whole world tells you to move, your job is to plant yourself beside the river of truth and tell the whole world, 'no, you move'." ~Captain America

That's kind of the INTJ motto for me. As far as an INTJ woman, society sucks. If you're not that social butterfly they want you to be, then you're the cold bitch. Funny how we have only a "this or that" situation....shallow society. I'm always in the "that" pile unless people are realists. That doesn't solve the social angst of an INTJ girl because they're different, but honestly, how do men see you? I mean, I see ENTJ/INTJ women as fun, cool, & smart. Not a floozy or cotton-headed whimsy or emotions-driven idiot that I cannot relate to mind, body, & soul. I find INTJ women elusive at the outset, but they are very loyal, perceptive, insightful, grounded, understanding, stable, & logical. Very good partner qualities. I mean, I feel worrying about understanding why you don't fit into society as you would like to tends to demean your personality & will simply be a problem until you die....the only way to fix it is push your comfort zones. Just my 2 cents worth....works in my life, though I'm still a social outcast. Just makes me appreciate those who appreciate me more. :D

(Besides, it's established fact that being an INTJ woman is simply an anomaly. Most every INTJ woman can attest to this. They tended to not be like most girls growing up and stuck out like a sore thumb and still do, though they are very attractive and alluring to men. And valued by their closest friend....maybe 2 closest friends.)

@Monika123456
LOL. I'm not saying you have problems showing emotions, I guess I'm saying more so relational to attraction to men. At least, that's been my experience with INTJ women because of shyness....it just doesn't come off the same way...if you saw how most women interact with me vs. how INTJ women interact with me, you'd understand. It's actually cuter how INTJ women are with me vs. other women.
Who cares if you don't fit social molds as a woman? I mean, as a man, I don't "fit in" socially, though people like to talk to me and I tend to have lasting impact on lot's of people. I don't adjust to the crowd...I just stand like a rock and hope people don't stub too many toes on me. You're not the problem, lady. Being INTJ is unique....feels like a curse sometimes, but would you rather fit in or be true to yourself and your values/innate structure?

Do not be ridiculous, me as intj girl do not have any problems to show emotions, i have a problem to not show them; and well I am not going to adjust to crowd, I'm just saying my perspective as intj girl, I think it might be a problem to be one, but I never felt I want to solve it, it is like i should hit my head to the wall to be at the level of society.

@INTJDesertgirl
This may sound sexist, but I've never seen a woman who can fully devote herself to being a fully focused "caring wife & mother" and a CEO. There's some sort of compromise. But that is also to say to what degree is the husband/father involved?

I've seen long-term studies done on how a lot of high-achieving women are frustrated that they can't seem to land a man who is successful because said man does not want to compete with his wife or come home to the stress of her outside life....I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm saying what the studies have shown.

It's becoming a similar phenomena to how the 30 million bachelors in China can't find wives because there aren't enough women in China due to the fact that Chinese population control limited parents to 2 children and parents were either abandoning their newborn daughters or giving them up for overseas adoption because a son would carry on the family name and was highly desirable. Strange consequences in cultural shifts these past 30-40years.

INTJ girls are unicorns: something rare, unique, & cool, but also rational and logical. Conversation & social skills tend to be something to work at. I just find myself content, though not always at ease, with realizing that there are some people I click with and some I don't, and treasure the ones that I can interact with in a deeper way. People usually lose me when I can't get any depth out of the conversation or out of their personality.

"higher social skills". "fake politeness" I'd prefer genuine & willingness to contribute to the conversation & try to feign interest if you're really interested. I mean, the INTJ girls I've been friends with or the ENTJ I was with didn't do good with emotions but I could see their emotions and interest in their body language. INTJ girls don't purposely show their emotions but it seems to come out in other ways. As far as smarter, that depends the meaning of "smarter".

I'm replying to the original post because unfortunately, I didn't have time to read all the responses.

@TooGeek2bChic I agree with you about the dire situation and I'm mainly concerned with another meteorite collision. It will probably not fully end us, but the consequences will be devastating.

On the other hand, long-range space travel (or space-time travel, if you wish) is something that looks not achievable very soon unless we discover something revolutionary, and it could be something which is not directly related.

So, in my imagination, here come the two next important stages of our evolution (can we still call it evolution when self-imposed?) and these two things are in my opinion inevitable, I'm just not sure which one would happen first but I guess I got the order right;

- a global program to improve our genome in different aspects, to make us more intelligent, more healthy, less damaging to the environment and each other > this will help us to achieve the "one global administration" we badly need.

- a global connection of our brains on a pre communication level. > this will turn us into one single, very powerful hive mind.

I think these two will happen much sooner than practical interstellar travel becomes possible and they will eventually help us achieve that goal which is to spread the blessing/curse of humankind around the known universe.

There is another possibility that someone mentioned which involves other dimensions/universes and I haven't been able to see enough nonfictional work about it but a possibility is something that can surprise us anytime and drastically change the course of events.

Honestly I'm surprised that so many still believe that we ever went to the moon but I certainly do not wish to have a debate on the matter because people don't change their mind on such a matter based upon a debate but only upon diligently looking into both sides of the matter for themselves.

It is interesting that NASA representatives are on camera stating: when we figure out how to safely pass through the Van Allen radiation belt we can go to the moon, mars, and beyond. Odd seeing how we've already done it so many times before. But of course as has also been said: We destroyed that technology and it's a painful process to build it back up.

We're going to Mars though. Yeah right

Nixon said: The American won't believe anything until they've seen it on television. In other words, the American people WILL believe anything they see on television. They feed you lies and you gobble it up like it has to be true because you saw it on television.

Two system admins are talking. "Are you crazy?" one asks. "You set your dog's name as your password?" "Why" the other asks. "what's wrong with H4!b5at+kWls-8yh4Guq ?"

An INTJ joke off, now I've seen everything.