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    • January 24, 2020 7:25:16 PM PST
    • I just wanted to express my appreciation of the ESFP types from the INTP perspective. One of my best friends is ESFP. There are a lot of differences between us, but I think that is the reason that we get along so well.

      One of the things that I do that I recently learned that most INTPs do is that I have discussions or debates within my own head. I may bring other people I know into these discussions in my imagination, because I usually know how those people would respond to the things I say, so I get the benefit of another point of view without the stress of actually having to socialize.

      That being said, I am generally unable to do this with ESFPs. My ESFP friend is the most unpredictable person I know. I never have any idea of what he is going to say, and I absolutely love that. He often brings perspectives I would never have thought of, and no one has ever made me laugh harder than he has.

      I think that the way that INTPs and ESFPs generally don't judge others, although the reason behind it is radically different, allows us to accept our deep differences. Also, the ability of an ESFP to work a crowd without inhibition is like a superpower to me. The other day, I decided to embark on an advertising campaign for my business by handing out business cards at the university, and I brought my ESFP friend with me. I was amazed by his ability to walk into a room and just shout for everyone's attention. That is a mutant ability I do not possess, but which proves quite useful.

      So I think every INTP needs an ESFP friend.

    • May 17, 2018 10:29:53 AM PDT
    • Hello I am a student at University and I am collecting data on Big-5, type indicator, and cluster B personality characteristics. The IRB and the Human consent pages are in included in the link. At the end of data collection I will be giving away amazon gift cards. The information is on the last page. I appreciate anyone willing to take the time. The average response time is around 15 minutes. Thank you again.

    • September 1, 2014 11:26:49 AM PDT
    • I enjoyed and was impressed enough with the sections on the inferior functions in this book I'm reading on the psychological types that I decided to share them with you all. The book is "Jung's Compass of Psychological Types" by James Graham Johnston. I recommend it for several reasons, some being the author's competent, wholesome, and effective treatment of the subject. The writer of the book, throughout his work, relates famous historical figures to a particular function to help the reader better conceptually understand the material; he doesn't argue that the people in his examples had the said dominant function per se but rather the qualities they exhibited and that are discussed can be related/representative of the dominant function in question. A metaphor of a theatrical stage is used to help the reader grasp the dynamics of the functions and postulated constituents of the psyche.

      Feel free to express what stood out to you in the passages and if you can relate to them with your comments replying to this thread.

      FYI. "CW 6" = Collected Works of C.G. Jung, Psychological Types (book)

      "[dominant] Extraverted Sensation vs. [inferior] Introverted Intuition
      While extraverted sensation is oriented to the concrete, perceivable reality of particular objects, its opposite, introverted intuition, has the largest window to the big adn long-distance picture of life as a whole. A person oriented to extraverted sensation has a very keenly developed sense of outer reality. Naturally the individual will look suspiciously on intuitive hunches. While intuition readily sees three dots and connects twenty four, sensation will not connect one dot before it's time - before it is fully perceived. If is not perceived, it does not exist. Apprehending intuitively is a strange and dark art for this orientation. Apprehending the panoramic images of the inner object is a fearful proposition, for the inner object possesses none of the attributes perceivable by extraverted sensation; the inner object is strange and suspect. The more that introverted intuition is suppressed as worrisome by the dominant type, the more troublesome it becomes.

      Julia child, as extraverted sensation, who would 'rather eat one tablespoon of chocolate russe cake than three bowls of Jell-O!' is opposed by the introverted intuition shadow played by Ghandi, who ate only the simplest foods and found fasting delicious. This could be a yeasty recipe of oppositions. A review of the five comparative categories for each type will help to illustrate this dynamic tension of opposites.

      Table 7-3 Se Opposed by Ni
      Orientations of
      Se: Extensive Facts ; Ni: Intensive Images
      Comments on Orientation: The lead attends to the many individual, enjoyable, sensuous facts found in the world at large; the shadow type wants her to look inward to the delicious images that could also captivate her attention.

      Attitudes of
      Se: Perceive Facts ; Ni: Apprehend Images
      Comments on Attitude: The lead is determined to get her facts just right, to accurately record every detail; the shadow type whispers that God is not in the details after all, but rather found in the inner life where the enthralling images that arise there are more real than real.

      Functional Roles of
      Se: Realistic Sensation ; Ni: Visionary Intuition
      Comments on Functional Role: The lead plays her role by savoring all the sensual delights of the moment, by being grounded in the practical issues of life; the shadow type wants her to join him in envisioning grand possibilities for the future.

      Substances of
      Se: Outer Perceptions ; Ni: Inner Imagination
      Comments on Substance: The lead considers her factual and accurate perceptions, she kneads them like dough; the shadow type wants her to get her fingers out of the dough of life and let her imagination rise.

      Scopes of
      Se: Particular Facts ; Ni: Holistic Images
      Comments on Scope: The lead enjoys each and every particular fact for its own sake; the shadow type wants her to relax and also enjoy images of the whole - the whole cake yes, but the whole life or whole world, even better.

      Extraverted sensation, fully oriented and directed to the outer object, is more engaged in the pure act of accurate perception than any of the other types. This both an adaptive advantage and a potential pitfall. The risk of a one-sided attitude, directed to the outer objects, is that it may fall into its grip, this repressing compensatory attitudes oriented to the inner object. The inner life can be too readily devalued in an exclusive absorption with sensory experience. What comes from inside will seem morbid and mysteriously unfamiliar, and therefore will likely be repressed.

      Extreme Extraverted Sensation
      When taken to an extreme, extraverted sensation conflates that ego identity with the outer object. Normally a highly sensitive type that differentiates the qualities of many sensuous experiences, in an extreme mode, it is driven to pure pleasure seeking. Extraverted sensation normally carries its own discriminating morality about sensuous experience. When too one-sided, it loses that discernment, 'squeezing dry' sensuous experience, exploiting the outer object merely to further stimulate sensation.

      All of life experience is blindly reduced to sensual perception; everything must have a concrete casual connection. '[S]he will unhesitatingly connect a psychogenic symptom with a drop in the barometer . . . (CW 6, paragraph 607).'

      Grandly imaginative introverted intuition asserts itself to actively oppose the conscious position, but in a primitive and disruptive form. It arrives as imagined anxieties, phobias, and magical superstitions. Extraverted sensation, the most practical, realistic, concrete form of ego consciousness, is besieged with preposterous suppositions. The most realistic and practical of all the types turns into a 'pathological parody' of imagined troubles. As jealous suspicions and fantasies arise, the individual becomes increasingly petty and sanctimonious.

      'A pettifogging captiousness follows, or a grotesquely punctilious morality combined with primitive, 'magical' superstitions that fall back on abstruse rights . . . reason turns into hair-splitting pedantry, morality into dreary moralizing and blatant Pharisaism, religion into the ridiculous superstition, and intuition, the noblest gift of man, into meddlesome officiousness, poking into every corner; instead of gazing into the far distance, it descends to the lowest level of human meanness (CW 6, paragraph 608).'

      The individual is simultaneously in the grip of an obsessive tie to the outer object and overwhelmed by magical forces from within." - pages 228-231

    • November 14, 2017 11:03:24 PM PST
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    • May 22, 2013 9:55:05 PM PDT
    • "7. The Extraverted Sensation Type

      No other human type can equal the extraverted sensation-type in realism. His sense for objective facts is extraordinarily developed. His life is an accumulation of actual experience with concrete objects, and the more pronounced he is, the less use does he make of his experience. In certain cases the events of his life hardly deserve [p. 458] the name 'experience'. He knows no better use for this sensed 'experience' than to make it serve as a guide to fresh sensations; anything in the least 'new' that comes within his circle of interest is forthwith turned to a sensational account and is made to serve this end. In so far as one is disposed to regard a highly developed sense for sheer actuality as very reasonable, will such men be esteemed rational. In reality, however, this is by no means the case, since they are equally subject to the sensation of irrational, chance happenings, as they are to rational behaviour.

      Such a type -- the majority arc men apparently -- does not, of course, believe himself to be 'subject' to sensation. He would be much more inclined to ridicule this view as altogether inconclusive, since, from his standpoint, sensation is the concrete manifestation of life -- it is simply the fulness [sic] of actual living. His aim is concrete enjoyment, and his morality is similarly orientated. For true enjoyment has its own special morality, its own moderation and lawfulness, its own unselfishness and devotedness. It by no means follows that he is just sensual or gross, for he may differentiate his sensation to the finest pitch of æsthetic purity without being the least unfaithful, even in his most abstract sensations, to his principle of objective sensation. Wulfen's Cicerone des r¨cksichtlosen Lebensgenusses is the unvarnished confession of a type of this sort. From this point of view the book seems to me worth reading.

      Upon the lower levels this is the man of tangible reality, with little tendency either for reflection or commanding purpose. To sense the object, to have and if possible to enjoy sensations, is his constant motive. He is by no means unlovable; on the contrary, he frequently has a charming and lively capacity for enjoyment; he is sometimes a jolly fellow, and often a refined æsthete. [p. 459]

      In the former case, the great problems of life hinge upon a good or indifferent dinner; in the latter, they are questions of good taste. When he 'senses', everything essential has been said and done. Nothing can be more than concrete and actual; conjectures that transcend or go beyond the concrete are only permitted on condition that they enhance sensation. This need not be in any way a pleasurable reinforcement, since this type is not a common voluptuary; he merely desires the strongest sensation, and this, by his very nature, he can receive only from without. What comes from within seems to him morbid and objectionable. In so far as lie thinks and feels, he always reduces down to objective foundations, i.e. to influences coming from the object, quite unperturbed by the most violent departures from logic. Tangible reality, under any conditions, makes him breathe again. In this respect he is unexpectedly credulous. He will, without hesitation, relate an obvious psychogenic symptom to the falling barometer, while the existence of a psychic conflict seems to him a fantastic abnormality. His love is incontestably rooted in the manifest attractions of the object. In so far as he is normal, he is conspicuously adjusted to positive reality -- conspicuously, because his adjustment is always visible. His ideal is the actual; in this respect he is considerate. He has no ideals related to ideas -- he has, therefore, no sort of ground for maintaining a hostile attitude towards the reality of things and facts. This expresses itself in all the externals of his life. He dresses well, according to his circumstances ; he keeps a good table for his friends, who are either made comfortable or at least given to understand that his fastidious taste is obliged to impose certain claims upon his entourage. He even convinces one that certain sacrifices are decidedly worth while for the sake of style.

      But the more sensation predominates, so that the [p. 460] sensing subject disappears behind the sensation, the more unsatisfactory does this type become. Either he develops into a crude pleasure-seeker or he becomes an unscrupulous, designing sybarite. Although the object is entirely indispensable to him, yet, as something existing in and through itself, it is none the less depreciated. It is ruthlessly violated and essentially ignored, since now its sole use is to stimulate sensation. The hold upon the object is pushed to the utmost limit. The unconscious is, accordingly, forced out of its me[accent]tier as a compensatory function and driven into open opposition. But, above all, the repressed intuitions begin to assert themselves in the form of projections upon the object. The strangest conjectures arise; in the case of a sexual object, jealous phantasies and anxiety-states play a great role. More acute cases develop every sort of phobia, and especially compulsive symptoms. The pathological contents have a remarkable air of unreality, with a frequent moral or religious colouring. A pettifogging captiousness often develops, or an absurdly scrupulous morality coupled with a primitive, superstitious and 'magical' religiosity, harking back to abstruse rites. All these things have their source in the repressed inferior functions, which, in such cases, stand in harsh opposition to the conscious standpoint; they wear, in fact, an aspect that is all the more striking because they appear to rest upon the most absurd suppositions, in complete contrast to the conscious sense of reality. The whole culture of thought and feeling seems, in this second personality, to be twisted into a morbid primitiveness; reason is hair-splitting sophistry -- morality is dreary moralizing and palpable Pharisaism -- religion is absurd superstition -- intuition, the noblest of human gifts, is a mere personal subtlety, a sniffing into every corner; instead of searching the horizon, it recedes to the narrowest gauge of human meanness. [p. 461]

      The specially compulsive character of the neurotic symptoms represent the unconscious counterweight to the laisser aller morality of a purely sensational attitude, which, from the standpoint of rational judgment, accepts without discrimination, everything that happens. Although this lack of basic principles in the sensation-type does not argue an absolute lawlessness and lack of restraint, it at least deprives him of the quite essential restraining power of judgment. Rational judgment represents a conscious coercion, which the rational type appears to impose upon himself of his own free will. This compulsion overtakes the sensation-type from the unconscious. Moreover, the rational type's link to the object, from the very existence of a judgment, never means such an unconditioned relation as that which the sensation-type has with the object. When his attitude reaches an abnormal one-sidedness, he is in danger of falling just as deeply into the arms of the unconscious as he consciously clings to the object. When he becomes neurotic, he is much harder to treat in the rational way, because the functions to which the physician must appeal are in a relatively undifferentiated state; hence little or no trust can be placed in them. Special means of bringing emotional pressure to bear are often needed to make him at all conscious."

    • July 13, 2014 9:44:00 AM PDT
    • Food pics are pretentious? That is hilariously funny. 1000s of ultraboob selfies and "look at me from forty different angles" on instagram isn't?

      I love sharing pics of food! It's something I've created and get to enjoy. I can also showcase my capabilities as I like to make meals for others :)
      What's pretentious in that?

    • March 20, 2014 1:06:56 AM PDT
    • Yes, especially when people posting the pictures nothing to do with creating it. Also, it is quite boring ...

    • September 18, 2012 3:24:58 PM PDT
    • I love to cook, and I have a better understanding of flavors, textures, and other sensing qualities than many of my friends who are S types.

      Also, Indian food is the tastiest cuisine to cook IMO. :D

    • September 2, 2012 12:01:07 PM PDT
    • I call myself a foodie because I like to cook. But I think the whole posting pictures on Facebook of food is pointless and pretentious.

    • August 20, 2012 10:34:36 PM PDT
    • I LOVE food and I LOVE to cook. Is this an ESFP thing?

    • January 4, 2014 1:20:55 PM PST
    • They're fun but crazy! Crazy good though ;)

    • November 3, 2013 1:55:48 AM PDT
    • me too!

    • October 6, 2013 2:09:53 PM PDT
    • I love esfps so much romantically they are the bomb. Agree?

    • November 14, 2012 3:26:45 AM PST
    • ESFP
      Extraverted Sensing with Feeling

      ESFP people are friendly, adaptable realists. They rely on what they can see, hear, and know first-hand. They good-naturedly accept and use the facts around them, whatever these are.They look for a satisfying solution instead of trying to impose any “should” or “must” of their own.They are sure that a solution will turn up once they have grasped all of the facts.

      They solve problems by being adaptable, and often can get others to adapt, too. People generally like them well enough to consider any compromise they suggest.They are unprejudiced, open-minded, and tolerant of most everyone—including themselves.They take things as they are and thus may be very good at easing a tense situation and pulling conflicting factions together.

      With their focus on the current situation and realistic acceptance of what exists, they can be gifted problem solvers. Because they are not necessarily bound by a need to follow standard procedures or preferred methods, they are often able to see ways of achieving a goal by “using” the existing rules, systems, or circumstances in new ways, rather than allowing them to be roadblocks.

      They are actively curious about people, activities, food, objects, scenery, or anything new presented to their senses.Their expert abilities in using their senses may show in: (a) a continuous ability to see the need of the moment and turn easily to meet it, (b) the skillful handling of people and conflicts, (c) the ability to absorb, apply, and remember great numbers of facts, or (d) an artistic taste and judgment.

      They make their decisions by using the personal values of feeling rather than the logical analysis of thinking.Their feeling makes them tactful, sympathetic, interested in people, and especially good at handling human contacts.They may be too easy in matters of discipline.They learn far more from first-hand experience than from books, and do better in actual situations than on written tests. Abstract ideas and theories are not likely to be trusted by ESFPs until they have been tested in experience.

      They may have to work harder than other types to achieve in school, but can do so when they see the relevance.
      ESFPs do best in careers needing realism, action, and adaptability. Examples are health services, sales, design, transportation, entertainment, secretarial or office work, food services, supervising work groups, machine operation, and many kinds of troubleshooting.
      ESFPs are strong in the art of living.They get a lot of fun out of life, which makes them good company.They enjoy their material possessions and take the time to acquire and care for them.They find much enjoyment in good food, clothes, music, and art.They enjoy physical exercise and sports and usually are good at these.

      How effective they are depends on how much judgment they acquire. They may need to develop their feeling so that they can use their values to provide standards for their behavior, and direction and purpose in their lives. If their judgment is not developed enough to give them any character or stick-to-it-iveness, they are in danger of adapting mainly to their own love of a good time.

      Inferior function (Ni):
      Triggers for the Inferior Function
      • Excessive focus on the future
      • Closing off of options
      • Excessive structured activity

      Forms of the Grip Experience
      • Internal confusion
      • Inappropriate attribution of meaning
      • Grandiose vision

      Ways of Returning to Equilibrium
      • Making contingency plans
      • Resassurance by others regarding “dire” consequences
      • Helping by others in setting priorities

      New Knowledge
      • Less fear of possibilities
      • Appreciation of the unknown
      • Access to their own intuition

      Source: Was That Really Me?: How Everyday Stress Brings Out Our Hidden Personality

    • September 19, 2012 6:48:42 PM PDT
    • Try not to focus so much on the stereotypes of J and P. J and P do not dictate behavior, their mindsets. You might have a higher propensity as a J to seek a structered layout but that doesn't necessarily preclude a P from using structure for other reasons.

      It's not [What] you do, it's [Why] you do it.

      Example: Why do you desire to be organized?

    • September 18, 2012 3:26:37 PM PDT
    • Types are not set in stone. Just because you may be P does not mean you dont plan well, or dislike an agenda.

    • August 5, 2012 8:45:30 PM PDT
    • if you read into cognitive functions enough, for us to act "J" like just means we are using our 3rd function, Extraverted Thinking, more.

    • July 31, 2012 6:47:11 PM PDT
    • I become more decisive too when I have to get the move on, but I don't think that is a J thing, just something that's a part of ESFPs and all P types.

    • July 30, 2012 6:33:36 PM PDT
    • (Ignore the title)...

      I can't tell if I'm ESFP or ESFJ. I feel like when things need to get done I become more J. Can one switch between types?

    • August 20, 2012 10:33:35 PM PDT
    • I would never date someone as energetic as me :p

    • July 30, 2012 6:18:31 PM PDT
    • Would you rather date someone as ADD as you are, or someone more grounded and stable as this site suggests?