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    • October 3, 2018 2:57:00 AM PDT
    • There is very small role of corporal punishment in building the character of the students but we abuse it with wrong power. Sometimes there is not need for punishment, with polite way one thing can be brought at right place but we have to struggle for it. To escape from the struggle, we use the way of punishment.

    • December 27, 2017 7:21:27 AM PST
    • Hmmmm. Thanks for posting.

      I wouldn't look at mbti to assess this one. Couple of red flags stand out to me.
      "He used to make jokes without realizing he was being rude, sometimes mock or criticize me until I got mad. For a while I couldn't talk to him "freely" cause I was scared of being judged again." , and
      "Eventually he realized what was going on with me and told me out of the blue that he wanted me to talk more, that he wasn't going to judge me and so on. Made it sound like a joke, though.".
      So, making you feel uncomfortable and then making you feel responsible for feeling uncomfortable.

      " Sometimes he would lose patience and complain about me, usually about math problems I couldn't solve or explain quickly enough, and get me mad again. He even told me he doesn't understand how my grades can be so high (!!!). "
      Undermines your ability and makes you feel shitty about your mistakes.

      I say run before this guy turns you into a shadow of yourself. Scared to say anything. Scared to make a mistake. Over-analysing. Over-analysing is never a good sign.

    • December 26, 2017 11:56:29 AM PST
    • I'm not English, so sorry in advance for any mistake. I'm an INFP. Me and my ISTP friend are in the same college. He almost never shows up to classes, but keeps texting me and asking me to study together. At the beginning I had the feeling he was just using me to understand math stuff (he doesn't know much cause his high school teachers were horrible, but he's very smart). It's not like he wasn't being nice to me, though.
      There was this one time I was trying to avoid a friend that has a crush on me and used to follow me everywhere and sit next to me on the train every single day. Me and my ISTP friend had just met, but he walked me to a different train station so that I could avoid the boy. At the time he was very quiet, especially when we were with people who wanted to joke/talk "incessantly" with me. I usually have that kind of non-stop conversation with everyone, but it never worked with him. Now I know it just isn't his style.

      What was bothering me was the actual result of our (rare) conversations. He used to make jokes without realizing he was being rude, sometimes mock or criticize me until I got mad. For a while I couldn't talk to him "freely" cause I was scared of being judged again. His actions were SO different, though. He wanted to get together for coffee, take the train with me everytime he could. If I was sitting too close to him, he wouldn't do or say anything. I payed for his coffee once and he insisted on paying for mine the next time, and it went on like that. I was pretty confused.

      Eventually he realized what was going on with me and told me out of the blue that he wanted me to talk more, that he wasn't going to judge me and so on. Made it sound like a joke, though.

      We started texting to help each other with math stuff but ended up talking about tv shows and other things as well. He helped me a lot with subjects he's good at (and when I say a lot, I mean A LOT. But maybe he just likes to find mistakes and correct them). Sometimes he would lose patience and complain about me, usually about math problems I couldn't solve or explain quickly enough, and get me mad again. He even told me he doesn't understand how my grades can be so high (!!!). That was SO frustrating!

      Then he started getting cold and distant in our everyday meetings but friendly on texts (telling me things about his life, joking, sharing random thoughts and songs, etc). If I wanted to keep the conversation going and ask him something, though, he would avoid the question. If I wanted him to see some funny video or just share something random like he was doing, he would say he doesn't care. Like... genuinely doesn't care. And I would feel used again.

      Two or three times he told me he never lets any of his friends see his home, but I've been there more than once. He says he doesn't like to study with people, but keeps asking me to study with him (even if we ended up doing nothing the time before). Last time we met, he was SO WEIRD. He usually is a very laid-back person but this time he looked excited (?). Joking all the time, smiling, searching for eye-contact, sending a lot of texts and voicemails once I went home. I don't know what's changed. Maybe he was just having a good day.

      My question is, what is going on? Am I being stupid and missing something obvious, or does he actually tolerate me but doesn't know how to treat people like people?

    • April 24, 2018 9:48:10 PM PDT
    • <blockquote><strong><a href="/profile/Nezumi">Nezumi</a> said:</strong><br />My brother is an ISTP so I've had a lot of experiences with them lol.

      ISTP's don't talk much. They live it their heads more then we do. And it generally has two moods play...and play. Kinda like us. lol

      Since like us. Play is work. So, like us, you have to dive into THEIR play to be noticed. Just like most people wooing an INTP would need to dive into our ever changing interests to be noticed.
      ISTP's love ingenuity. My best times with my brother were the rare occasions when I bested him at building with legos or making circuits. Anything with tools and weapons he's amazing at learning so it's fun to surprise him once in a while.

      They aren't abstract thinkers....and you'll be able to run them in circles in a debate. I suggest keeping that in mind, as my brother was never very fond of either. So I assume if you're wooing then it would be something to avoid.

      ummm. I'm not sure what else to say. Maybe ask questions? I'd be happy to answer.</blockquote><br />

      It Is true that we live in our heads - trying to solve this problem or the next, so that is probably why we don’t say much - until it’s time to interact. Then it is ‘Play - On’. I prefer to ‘whistle while I work’ and fortunately, the guys I work with do too. So we try to keep each other laughing. Most other people seem to be ok with it. There are those super serious types who frown upon it - generally higher-ups. But the work gets done so, why not, right? I think for me it may be a ‘coping mechanism’ I use for having to be stuck with being around people for 8 hours a day in a close environment. Humor. I do not know how I’d survive without it. It’s gotta be the good stuff though. Usually involves satire, self- deprecation, and making fun about all the things wrong about the workplace. People I really like, I’ll play with when they’re mad about something. I don’t like seeing my friend down & so, I’ll put on my Jamaican accent and ask, “STE-phen - Why dee frowny face today”? It lets him vent, with his response and I just play on that harder in my accent until we’re both laughing. They pay us to do a job, not be miserable.

    • November 14, 2017 11:34:56 PM PST
    • helinlin20171116

    • July 17, 2016 2:26:16 AM PDT
    • SMGmayfair said:
      ilove is pretty much on the ball there.

      What, self-contradictory obfuscative world view?

    • April 13, 2018 8:44:43 PM PDT
    • Good Luck w/ your fantasy, Dude.

      Chances are pretty good that if there isn’t more to you than that high, hard one youre stroking, that’s all she’ll be before long.

      ISTPs are not easily deceived and we like to look deep into the people we’re considering. If there’s nothing below the surface, we get bored after the novelty wears off and move along.

      Kinda sux for you because we always leave them wanting more of us.

      Good luck.

    • February 3, 2018 12:51:54 PM PST
    • Not sure if I ever met an ISTP female, but I think they can handle themselves and others pretty well. Your post makes me smile though, I can relate to the straightforward expressions, to the point where some may find it a bit awkward hehe :D - It takes one to see through all that and appreciate the raw feels and honesty behind it. Besides ... cuddling is super important and one of the best things. Good luck with not scaring her away ^.^ If she gets turned off then there's a better fit for you out there anyway.

    • February 2, 2018 3:33:31 PM PST
    • This is creepy AF! ISTP's have sensitive egos. It won't matter how good looking you are. If you give off the slightest creepy vibe they will be terrified of you and shun you like the plague. As far as I can tell they need the nicest most sensitive man out there. A highly respectful individual. A real gentlemen because they are paranoid conspiracy theorists. Your tricks will work much better on Introverted sensors. We like weird stuff and people, but ISTPs hate weird people. They think they're trying to kill them.

    • February 1, 2018 7:49:58 PM PST
    • Hello I'm an unhealthy ENFP who's obsessed with this little cutie tootie ISTP who I just want to cuddle until she screams for air and dies. Sex is only a matter of time (I'm an ENFP), however I wouldn't mind knowing how much I can reveal of my true self without having her getting turned off. I haven't showed her any weirdness, always try to be the hottest guy in the room (you little materialistic fucks <3) and I feel like there should be a third point but there isn't. Also, I do plan on being the best sex partner she ever had/will have, so what type of shit are you guys into?

    • November 14, 2017 11:02:04 PM PST
    • helinlin20171116

    • January 25, 2017 8:55:26 PM PST
    • Why?

    • February 3, 2016 4:13:45 PM PST
    • Hi, I'm here!
      Err, You can usually find us under the bonnet of a car.... well that's where I usually am! Or perhaps taking pianos apart and fixing them, oh and mobile phones, fixing them too... I work in the truck industry and love taking things apart and sorting all the parts out for trucks :) Hmmmmm, you'd probably find us on holiday, alone. Love my own company about 80% of the time. You'd probably notice us by the untidy desk (at work), untidy bedroom, house etc. You know you've met one when we say "I will do it in a minute", then one year later or even later, that wine glass that you were supposed to have cleared up, has finally grown mould on it, but you have now washed it up... I think you'll find us quite easy now....
      Kind regards.

    • October 16, 2014 7:09:19 PM PDT
    • I'm an ISTP female and I actually don't have any tattoos. I'm an artist (illustrator) so I'm often mistaken for an ISFP at first glance. It's once you've gotten to know me that the T sticks out.

      Best place to find us? Well, I suppose it depends on the ISTP's individual interests. I'll use myself as an example: I like art and do not like crowded, overly loud areas (aka night clubs), so I can be found at an art supply store, a small, intimate bar, or inside a library if I'm not busy. Or, I'll be walking around just for the hell of it, casually observing everything and everyone around me.

      Sorry to revive the thread, but I figured I'd post something that hopefully may be of some help.

    • February 18, 2016 8:32:26 PM PST
    • Hi. I'm an ISTP (LSI in Socionics)

    • December 31, 2015 4:03:35 AM PST
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    • November 15, 2015 11:02:33 AM PST
    • y3Mo said:
      My best friend ( well.. a little more than that ;) *wink*) is an INFP, so maybe that's the answer for you ;P, INTPs are quite compatible with me.... i hate Js with a passion, i'm strongly P so.... so no one is going to cage me haha xD, ENTP might be a little annoying, she'll drive me into the debating arena... but hey, i play to win so i might just be able to date an ENTP.

      Don't disregard all J's. I have a strong suspicion my brother is an ISTP. I think the two can work quite well together.

    • July 28, 2015 2:43:11 PM PDT
    • :-) I get the thing about Js too. Don't know if you saw Anju's last post - How To Recognize Each Myers-Briggs Personality - but if you click on the link you'll be able to see at a glance that all Js have something in common, they extravert their main judging functions. So they try to control everything around them. They always want you to 'be' something, rather than just letting you 'be'. Ps we introvert our main judging functions, so we're not trying to control anything but ourselves. Which makes us more accepting of others, but probably less accepting of ourselves. In a P's world, only the P suffers. In a J's world, everybody suffers.
      My theory :-)

    • July 28, 2015 2:26:43 PM PDT
    • lol @ the last post. I think I have a lot of ISTP 'moments' from the sound of it. I go from hating reading (borrring), to loving it (fantasyy!) to hating it (borrring) to loving it (discoveryy!)... And it feels very much like how you describe it when I'm in the bored phase.. Like ugh, words, more words, next page, next page, is this book ever going to end...?

    • July 26, 2015 10:55:41 AM PDT
    • Worst thing to do as a hobby? Well i'm a very tolerant person so i can find fun in a lot of things and amuse myself xD but i guess the worst hobby would be.... somewhere where i'm trapped, not exploring, something with a lot of routine, something where even if i don't want to do it at that split second, i HAVE to do it..

      Reading ;P i HATE reading... it's something I've hated every since a child.. i can't stand it, i'm not doing anything, i'm not exploring anything, too much routine... * looking at words, next line, looking at words, next line, looking at words*, my physical body will degenerate if i keep reading... UHH it's horrible >.<

    • July 26, 2015 10:51:11 AM PDT
    • How did i get into MBTI? Well i wanted to find out more about myself... i love to do surveys and i love to explore myself and see what i could potentially do later in life. I have always had an interest in psychology so yeah :) and yes... i like sports so i do go out a lot, but i come from a gaming background, love computers, love to fix things, love the risk involved with games and sports. I realised that in order for me to find a special someone, i will reach out to more people online than offline, just seems logical to me ;P.

    • July 26, 2015 10:46:51 AM PDT
    • My best friend ( well.. a little more than that ;) *wink*) is an INFP, so maybe that's the answer for you ;P, INTPs are quite compatible with me.... i hate Js with a passion, i'm strongly P so.... so no one is going to cage me haha xD, ENTP might be a little annoying, she'll drive me into the debating arena... but hey, i play to win so i might just be able to date an ENTP.

    • July 26, 2015 10:36:49 AM PDT
    • omygosh omygosh. an 'S' in the virtual world. This is awesome. We never see you guys. You're always busy, doing, stuff. Ok I've got a question: What 'N' do you think you would be most compatible with, and why? Oh, and another one, how did you get into MBTI? Ou! and another one, what's the worst thing someone could make you do as a hobby?

    • July 26, 2015 10:13:00 AM PDT
    • I want to tell the world about how cool the ISTP species are... but unfortunately there aren't many of us, so we disappear into the void quite quickly.. never to be found again.. o.o, seriously... ISTPs need to breed more babies ;P, my favourite toy as a kid was a spanner haha xD.. anyway.... folks! Ask me questions! I give hearty, entertaining, informative and slightly strange answers! Ready.. set... GO

    • September 9, 2014 8:52:58 PM PDT
    • The section on introverted thinking and its inferior functions ("oppositions") from the book "Jung's Compass of Psychological Types" by James Graham Johnston. Actors are used as examples to illustrate the qualities of the function in question, that is to say that the persons mentioned showed attributes akin to that of the paired function associated by the author and not that they necessarily had that as their dominant function. Furthermore, no one person is a "type"; the functions are conceptually "types", it's argued that people have all the functions and only have them developed and/or expressed to different degrees.

      "[dominant] Introverted Thinking vs. [inferior] Extraverted Feeling
      A person disposed to introverted thinking with extraverted feeling as the shadow type [inferior function] tends to feel shy, awkward, and ill equipped for social interaction. The more people present, the less he likes it. Social relationships drain his energy. He is a stranger to small talk. Though he may get worked into a passionate fervor discussing, with like-minded associates, some philosophical problem, he will tire of talking too much with people about their lives or the commonplace events of the day. His feeling side is little evolved; he finds empathy difficult. It is easier for him to understand relationships conceptually from the lofty perspective of the head than to either feel or express feelings from the heart.

      Good Queen Bess [Elizabeth I]. as extraverted feeling, will play the role of compensatory opposite to the lead, played by Immanuel Kant. He is forever lost in thought, only partially aware of the goings on around him. He just wants people to leave him alone so that he can intensively pursue his unifying ideas and philosophy. Elizabeth would have him spend more time as social gatherings, attend the opera or the theater, stay in touch with people and with what they value. She would have him be less of a hermit and more of a social butterfly. A review of their attributes, using our comparative categories, will help to make this tension of opposites more clear.

      Table 7-5 Ti Opposed by Fe
      Orientations of
      Ti: Intensive Insights ; Fe: Extensive Norms
      Comments on Orientation: The lead type [dominant function] has his eye intensively on emerging new ideas and insights; the shadow type [inferior function] has her eye on people protocol, norms, and traditions.

      Attitudes of
      Ti: Apprehend Insights ; Fe: Perceive Norms
      Comments on Attitude: The lead type chases insights all day long, somewhat oblivious to the people, practical details, or social customs unrelated to his insights; the shadow type wants to affirm tradition, to attend to practical detail, to support social harmony and norms.

      Functional Roles of
      Ti: Conceptual Thinking ; Fe: Social Feeling
      Comments on Functional Role: The lead type applies his thinking philosophically, seeking conceptual clarity for the inner images and ideas he beholds; the shadow type would have him empathizing with people and mingling about, feeling his way from one social gathering to another.

      Substances of
      Ti: Inner Thoughts ; Fe: Outer Valuations
      Comments on Substance: The lead type thinks with thoughts about the inner object; the shadow type feels with feeling-toned valuations about the outer objects.

      Scopes of
      Ti: Holistic Insights ; Fe: Particular Norms
      Comments on Scope: The lead type wants to focus on the holistic insights that he is apprehending inwardly; the shadow type would have him focus on outward detail, especially the ones that pertain to what others value.

      The relationship between these two is amicable, as long as the lead does not become too identified with the inner object. The shadow type plays a quiet compensatory role as an inferior role. The opposition is noticeable but not overwhelming. The individual often lacks social grace or attention to social norms, and may seem distant and remote. The shadow type, over time, will change all that, integrating an awareness of norms and values, increasingly enhancing the individual's social skills. But if the ego's lead introverted thinking becomes too much identified with the inner object, then the shadow type will gather the forces of the unconscious in a conflict to upend the dominant position.

      Extreme Introverted Thinking
      With extreme one-sidedness, the ego is unduly commingled with the ideas and truths discovered in the collective unconscious. The person's identity is conflated with the inner object. 'He begins to confuse his subjective truth with his own personality' (CW 6, paragraph 636).

      With an exclusive orientation to the inner object, naturally the outer object loses importance and attention. The images and ideas of the inner object are indeed enthralling, but they take on an independent life of their own. No longer do they easily link up with the facts of the world or practical applications; they are sought after for their own sake. The connections between ideas and practical facts get lost. Thoughts, detached from the facts of the outer objects, take on mythological qualities.

      One-sided thinking taken to an extreme discriminates against all objective facts that do not fit with its treasured truth. The more one-sided the thinking, the more the identity gets lost in the mythological images of the inner object. 'It creates theories for their own sake . . . with a distinct tendency to slip over from the world of ideas to mere imagery' (CW 6, paragraph 630).

      Representations of the archetypal unconscious are indeed enthralling and inspiring. They represent that which is eternally valid and true. Yet introverted thinking must allow the other complimentary attitudes of consciousness to connect those universal truths to the practical issues of life.

      If ignored, the outer object, so coldly rejected, begins to attack from within. He begins to obsess about things that, to others, seems utterly unimportant. The individual also may lose his social bearings. He can be prone to troublesome social relationships and reckless value judgments.

      The individual becomes increasingly isolated and temperamental. His touchiness further isolates him from the very people who could help him compensate for his one-sidedness. His tone becomes surly: '[H]e will burst out with vicious, personal retorts against every criticism however just. Thus his isolation gradually increases. His originally fertilizing ideas become destructive, poisoned by the sediment of bitterness' (CW 6, paragraph 636). The individual increasingly loses touch with concrete reality as his plagued with phobias, obsessive compulsions, and anxiety." - pages 235-238