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    • February 8, 2018 5:04:43 AM PST
    • Is your name Daniel, from youtube?

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    • June 10, 2017 9:17:32 PM PDT
    • Do you show your anger when you're frustrated with someone?

      How frustrated are you with people who don't harmonize with the group/break the flow/cause discomfort and/or chaos?

    • February 6, 2016 7:02:16 PM PST
    • if I had to choose gender female intp ALL THE WAY, I want to marry an intp one day

    • December 27, 2015 4:58:00 AM PST
    • if you were stuck on a island...and you had only one person to take with you for company.

      which person would you take.

      1. An ENTP
      2. An INTP

    • May 30, 2015 3:47:01 PM PDT
    • probably because I stumbled on this by accident, its not really marketed the best, I just wen on whim and typed in "mbti dating" and discovered it, but this would be a cool place and ide come here more if there were more people to talk to!

    • May 30, 2015 2:38:52 PM PDT
    • Why are there so few of you here? :P

    • May 24, 2015 12:20:48 AM PDT
    • To answer the last couple of questions where enfs are, we usually like to stay busy, personally, im either working, with friends, at the gym, reading or writing in a range of locations (coffee shops, outdoors) love being in nature, enfjs will have a lot of unique specific interests, so best to attract one is to be in alignment with yourself, also i do yoga and cycling, and i travel

      CHECK OUT MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL FOR ENFJS, im not on here a lot so i hop this link helps https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkhtBLiOpCcMWl7F_tedZDg

    • April 29, 2015 11:55:38 AM PDT
    • Same question as Helene.

    • March 22, 2015 11:12:35 AM PDT
    • Where do ENFJs hang out?/Where can I find you guys? I only know one...

    • December 17, 2014 8:21:29 PM PST
    • Unless he/she is/was an exceptional person in complete control of her mind, the terrified individual would be in mortal fear for her life, possibly believing she had been possessed by some demonic spirit (or damned by God). She would have no learned cultural foundation of scientific thought/knowledge to frame her experience. You or I would at least have some background knowledge about the concepts of time travel that would allow us to imagine worlds beyond our own. So at least at first, she would likely experience everything for the worse.

    • November 14, 2017 11:04:32 PM PST
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    • November 12, 2016 1:55:58 PM PST
    • Well it was the 30's... (-_-) even Freud was a screwed up man of his times. That said though neuroscience like Dario Nadi's work is prooving cognitive science cant be ignored.

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    • October 9, 2016 12:50:34 PM PDT
    • - Kind
      - Listener
      - Thinker

    • March 7, 2016 1:32:22 PM PST
    • Lol! hmmm, your number two must-have cracked me up. And that 3rd one, following up... I'm not very good at that either.

      PatricioINTP, good point about non-smokers... Didn't think of that. As a non-smoker myself, it'd be hard to try to have a relationship with someone who did smoke.

    • March 7, 2016 8:49:57 AM PST
    • PatricioINTP said:
      - Non-smoker - NFJ - Who is also attracted to INTPs (of course) There are other things, like similar religious and/or political beliefs, but I found trying to describe myself and especially what makes the four NF's different frustrating as many the more common S types who haven't heard of the MBTI don't get it. (I have A LOT of INFP friends, but meet and confirmed very few NFJs for some reason... all in a relationship.)

      take my advise and avoid infjs, enfjs seem fine, but avoid infjs in a romantic relationship. people will come and say that infj intp are the golden pair and stuff, but it does not work out that well,....

    • March 7, 2016 4:39:20 AM PST
    • - Non-smoker
      - NFJ
      - Who is also attracted to INTPs (of course)

      There are other things, like similar religious and/or political beliefs, but I found trying to describe myself and especially what makes the four NF's different frustrating as many the more common S types who haven't heard of the MBTI don't get it. (I have A LOT of INFP friends, but meet and confirmed very few NFJs for some reason... all in a relationship.)

    • March 7, 2016 1:26:46 AM PST
    • 1. intelligence
      2. good ass and healthy.
      3. good in socialising and following up (things i am bad at)

    • March 7, 2016 12:19:03 AM PST
    • I feel like I might be late to the party since the posts I've been reading were created in 2014. Ha ha. But why not make one? I'm curious. So here goes...

      What are your top 3 must-haves in an S.O.? Be as specific as you'd like! I'm looking forward to reading responses.

      Mine:

      1. Gotta be attracted to you. (Sorry. Gotta be realistic.) Muscles anyone? Cute (and in no way creepy) smile? Great!
      2. Dude's gotta love God.
      3. Any guy I eventually call mine absolutely MUST love dogs. (I've found that guys who have cats [and ONLY cats] as pets are somehow not as compatible. Coincidence? Perhaps...)

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    • August 21, 2014 9:09:01 PM PDT
    • I had to leave an ENFJ relationship. I am now with ISTJ and although that seemed weird at first.. it's like a much better ENFJ type match for me... haha.if you want to pm me to talk -> don;t hesitate!! I was in a very intense INFJ -ENFJ relationship that sounds somewhat like what you are probably going through.. xx!

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    • September 1, 2014 10:48:00 AM PDT
    • I enjoyed and was impressed enough with the sections on the inferior functions in this book I'm reading on the psychological types that I decided to share them with you all. The book is "Jung's Compass of Psychological Types" by James Graham Johnston. I recommend it for several reasons, some being the author's competent, wholesome, and effective treatment of the subject. The writer of the book, throughout his work, relates famous historical figures to a particular function to help the reader better conceptually understand the material; he doesn't argue that the people in his examples had the said dominant function per se but rather the qualities they exhibited and that are discussed can be related/representative of the dominant function in question. A metaphor of a theatrical stage is used to help the reader grasp the dynamics of the functions and postulated constituents of the psyche.

      Feel free to express what stood out to you in the passages and if you can relate to them with your comments replying to this thread.

      FYI. "CW 6" = Collected Works of C.G. Jung, Psychological Types (book)


      "[dominant] Extraverted Feeling vs. [inferior] Introverted Thinking
      A person oriented to extraverted feeling, with introverted thinking as the shadow type [inferior function], will tend to avoid philosophical questions and deep thinking. They very meaning of of life may ultimately be found there, but extraverted feeling will prefer to to find that meaning ready made in the world of the social order and societal values. She prefers time with others where she gains freedom from the thoughts that periodically alight, often in a critical way, as observations about her own life or others. Being alone with her thoughts can too often bring on a melancholic mood. An orientation to others, to the social world of people, norms, values, and expectations, is her safe refuge from them.

      Her primary psychic opposition is between Good Queen Bess [Queen Elizabeth I], representing extraverted feeling, and Immanuel Kant, representing introverted thinking. The Queen on the main stage seeks harmony among her troupe; she is attentive to the norms and standards she finds among them, but her shadow opposite behind stage whispers that she should discard all of that and think for herself. Our table of comparative categories can help to more fully grasp how Kant could be the Queen's determined antagonist.


      Table 7-2 Fe Opposed by Ti
      Orientations of
      Fe: Extensive Norms ; Ti: Intensive Insights
      Comments on Orientation: The lead attends to particular social protocols and norms - she is loathe to transgress tradition; the shadow type encourages her to forget all that and to look intently on new ideas.

      Attitudes of
      Fe: Perceive Norms ; Ti: Apprehend Insights
      Comments on Attitude: The lead is determined to sustain social harmony on the conscious stage; the shadow type whispers that she could also be sovereign over new insight.

      Functional Roles of
      Fe: Social Feeling ; Ti: Conceptual Thinking
      Comments on Functional Role: The lead plays her role by empathizing with others, feeling her way from one event or gathering to another; the shadow type encourages her think philosophically about life, to also find harmony in truth.

      Substances of
      Fe: Other Valuations ; Ti: Inner Thoughts
      Comments on Substance: The lead works with her feeling-values to discern what she likes or dislikes in particular about people or events; the shadow type wants her to step back from her feeling-values and think more intensively with holistic thoughts about what is pure and true, rather than dawdle about, evaluating what she likes or doesn't like about the world around her.

      Scopes of
      Fe: Particular Norms ; Ti: Holistic Insights
      Comments on Scope: The lead is very oriented to detail, she is quite interested in all of them, especially the ones that pertain to what others value; the shadow type wants her to step back, see the big picture, discern important insights from the holistic images that come to her.


      If Elizabeth, as the lead, refuses to listen to the quiet Kant, softly reminding her to look to the larger meaning in life, if he is figuratively exiled to her psychic tower of London, then she has gained absolute power to govern consciousness and a rebellious coup becomes inevitable. Kant will arm himself with mighty weapons from the unconscious and bring her to ignominious defeat.

      Extreme Extraverted Feeling
      Extraverted feeling carried to a one-sided extreme unduly associates the ego identity with the outer object. When extraverted feeling becomes too attached to the values and social norms of others, feeling is dispossessed of its own most valuable personal qualities. Feeling becomes too closely tied to the objects of its orientation; it loses its own natural validity - its natural charm and warmth.

      'The subject [person] becomes so enmeshed in the network of individual feeling processes that to the observer it seems as though there were merely a feeling process and no longer a subject of feeling (CW 6, paragraph 596).'

      As the individual is pulled from one empathetic moment to another; the personal identity is lost in the affect of the moment. The identity is lost to collective values and the individual becomes what Holden Caulfield, the hero of Catcher in the Rye, called a 'phony.'

      'It becomes cold, 'unfeeling,' untrustworthy. It has ulterior motives, or at least makes an impartial observer suspect them. It no longer makes that agreeable and refreshing impression which invariably accompanies genuine feeling; instead, one suspects a pose, or that the person is acting . . . (CW 6, paragraph 596)'

      The repressed shadow type [inferior function], introverted thinking, that essentially seeks truth and authenticity, will engender tyranny on the conscious stage. In the repression of the introverted attitudes, the individual loses access to that balance of opposites that only the collective unconscious (inner object) can provide as counterpoint to the allure of the world at large (outer object.) The ego itself is no match for the power of either the collective unconscious or the manifold world. The shadow attitude will bring its allies from the unconscious to oppose the extreme position.

      Rather than the profound intellect of an Immanuel Kant, the repessed and ignore introverted thinking possesses 'infantile and archaic' qualities. As conflictive antagonist, it delivers obsessive, intolerant, and shallow thoughts to depreciate everything that extraverted feeling most highly treasures. Shadow projections categorically reduce people to some sterile characterization. 'She is nothing but a social gadfly.' 'He is nothing but a mechanic.'

      'The individual may be prone to '...extravagant displays of feeling, gushing talk, loud expostulations, etc., which ring hollow . . . It is at once apparent that some kind of resistance is being overcompensated' (CW 6, paragraph 599). The obsessively negative thoughts that plague the individual from the unconscious deliver unmanageable fears and emotional excesses." - pages 224-227

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