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    • February 6, 2016 5:20:20 AM PST
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      INFJ-ENFP vs. INFJ-ENTP

      Hi fellow infjs,

      I have a question about the most recommended pairings for infj. I have experience with enfp but not with entp.
      To me it seems the enfp corresponds to the ideal partner I've always had in mind: extroverted but not too egocentric, loving people, naturally generous, and driven by his ideals. It's like me, but out there, where I wish I could be. My last passion was for an enfp, although of course it's not a magic recipe - I had a relation with another one and even though I appreciated his qualities a lot, the spark was just not there. Apparently it works better if we have a common goal.
      So I'm wondering about entp: supposedly they are not as morally consistent as the enfp, so how the infj deals with that? To me it seems it would be a major drawback. So what is this infj-entp special bond all about? I think I've never met a male entp, so I can't talk from experience. Only met a female entp, I think she was at first irritated by my (too) gentle behaviour but once we had a very long conversation that left me almost dizzy because I had forgotten about everything else. So how is it in romantic relationships?

    • February 6, 2016 7:20:47 AM PST
    • INFJ-ENFP vs. INFJ-ENTP

      Hello infj.

      I wish I could tell you.
      Although MBTI is a great theory, it can't hold true for everyone we meet.
      There is a definite connection between the two types. But it seems that it depends on much more than compatibility. Attitude and perception are very important.

      Everyone has a different attitude.
      Everyone perceives differently.
      Don't shrug aside your feelings! Be safe.

      Will.

    • February 6, 2016 7:20:49 AM PST
    • INFJ-ENFP vs. INFJ-ENTP

      (Double post)

      This post was edited by Deleted Member at February 6, 2016 7:21:58 AM PST
    • February 6, 2016 7:52:45 AM PST
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      INFJ-ENFP vs. INFJ-ENTP

      Yep. Sometimes I wish I didn't know about MBTI so I would stop over-analyzing and just trust my guts.

    • February 6, 2016 8:14:59 AM PST
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      I think that sometimes too.

    • February 6, 2016 9:58:26 AM PST
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      INFJ-ENFP vs. INFJ-ENTP

      Yeah to me there would be a natural hurdle in feeling v/s thinking.. but I have never interacted with a known ENTP either..

    • February 6, 2016 9:22:01 PM PST
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      I know a lot about infjs and what are great matches, depending on your desires, your fulfillment would really be exemplified in intjs, followed by an ntp,, if you core desire is same values and functioning its enfjs, infjs and infjs never work as i know, all my infj friends say its weird dating themselves, intj is #1 pick

    • February 7, 2016 2:03:22 AM PST
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      INFJ-ENFP vs. INFJ-ENTP

      I suspect the MBTI gives some knowledge which can be used to make better mistakes :)

    • February 7, 2016 2:40:06 PM PST
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      I have been in two longterm relationships with ENFPs and it ended very, very badly. In fact, I would classify those relationships as the worst, most destructive relationships I have ever been in. Because (as types) we are both so responsive to the other's emotional states, it seems that we cannot pull out of a death spiral once it's begun, whether we meant it to have begun or not.

      However, I'm loathe to make blanket assessments based on 2 bad relationships.

      I've been in relationships with ESTPs and ESFPs, but to my knowledge, never an ENTP so I can't give any firsthand account of it. Would that I could. I am curious to know.

    • February 9, 2016 1:35:26 AM PST
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      Definitely, definitely ENFP, I would go there with out a doubt, for an amazing bonding experience and someone who will likely understand you really well and the chance to develop a rare and special love.
      I find while i can get on well with ENTP's generally, too much time with them is exhausting and sometimes gets on my nerves. But the ENTP's i know(and it's only two people.) do have a propensity to argue for the sake of arguing and be self destructive at times, they also tear my ideals to shreds and I find that very hard.
      But you have to do what is right for you, just using type alone we ignore the richness and diversity of people, whose type gives similar preferences and tendencies, but can still be very, very different people within type.

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    • February 9, 2016 6:40:44 AM PST
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      INFJ-ENFP vs. INFJ-ENTP

      Looking at past relationships, i prefer ENTP males over ENFP males. Like with what arkay said. In my experience the ENFP guys were actually the ones that were more selfish and egocentric - not to say ENTPs aren't but I find that I can relate with them more. Two NFs together can really hurt each other with their deep sensitivities. It can be very difficult to maintain once someones feelings are too hurt :(

      The ENTP moral inconsistency i think is why they are such a good match for an INFJ... we bring new perspective into each others lives and balance each others stubborn views on things (after many hours of debate and chuckles of course). And they aren't quite as unpredictable in the bad sense.

      When an ENFP is unhealthy they'll manipulate, when ENTP is unhealthy they'll get dramatic. I would rather deal with illogical NT drama (because I can snap them back into their senses) than manipulation from someone who i thought I could really trust (no one to snap ME back into my senses).
      Once I read that INFJ and ENTP are like two sides of the same coin, and I definitely support that... in contrast ENFPs have always confused and saddened me in the end.. so far at least. I think maybe ENFP females and INFJ males would work better than INFJ females ENFP males.

    • February 14, 2016 1:40:37 PM PST
    • INFJ-ENFP vs. INFJ-ENTP

      I've never been in a relationship relationship with an ENTP, but I did talk with one for a while, & from my point of view, it was absolutely wonderful. Both of our Ns working together found us talking & laughing for hours, & he could see through me in ways I never expected of anybody, which is simultaneously disconcerting & thrilling. I know that my profile says I'm an ENFP, but I'm a pretty solid X (which is obviously not an option), & so to have someone draw me out of a moment of hesitancy & introverted panic was an insanely intoxicating feeling. The issue that ended things though was the decision to stick to my innermost morals & beliefs, rather than sacrifice them & inevitably come to the same choice down the road. Now, if I had the chance to be with an ENTP whose morals did align with mine, I would totally try it again, but I know that other ENTPs that I'm friends with struggle with keeping other people's sensitivities in mind, & NFs like to be both understood and supported emotionally, so I don't know how well it would actually turn out in the end.
      On the flipside, I know some really amazing & solid ENFP males who are stereotypical healthy, eccentric but fun loving ENFPs, & it is my personal -only a little biased - belief that everyone should at least have an ENFP friend, if only for the encouragement that you're awesome & there is adventure in everything. I think that when push comes to shove, it all comes down to maturity & finding one's balance, as well as coming into your own wants & needs.

    • February 20, 2016 3:30:47 AM PST
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      I try to use MBTI as a support to my gut instinct. Problem is only, whey the evaluation turns out to be equal (which is mostly an illusion).

    • July 23, 2016 8:45:54 PM PDT
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      INFJ-ENFP vs. INFJ-ENTP

      Well, this seems like quite the one-sided argument going on here. I prefer the term "morally ambiguous", thank you; and that's actually a bad label as well. Just because it's part of our nature, doesn't mean we can't control it. Think of it more as the ability to suspend judgement and run with whatever ideas are in your head at the time, but we really do have feelings... sometimes. My favorite hobby is to make people laugh. I'm not sure who follows Enneagram, but I'm a 7w6 (Enthusiast) vs the more common 7w8 (Excitement Seeker) model, which some of you seem to be referring to. Enthusiasts demand that life be engrossing and entertaining. To ensure a positive environment, they strive to make life fun for others as well. Excitement Seekers are fully engaged in experiencing the world. Enjoyable and exciting activities, which may include acquiring material goods, help Excitement Seekers escape from a harsh or boring reality. In other words, I'm closer to an INFP, while 7w8 is closer to an ESTP. I'm not the best at explaining the difference, so here's a forum link with no warranties expressed or implied:
      http://personalitycafe.com/type-7-forum-enthusiast/105770-7w6-7w8-differences.html
      (I didn't actually read that, so I hope it supports my point.)

      On the MBTI side, as an ENTP, Ti (introverted thinking) is my second function. It's my second highest priority, where as an INFJ (if you follow the system) it's your third function. Fe (extroverted feeling) is my third cognitive function, just like Fe is your second function. Basically, both of us are able to think to ourselves (internally), but talk about our feelings (externally), instead of using Fi (introverted feeling) which is the second function of the ENFP. Wow, this is getting boring for me, too. Time for a video:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up0mk3YTQus
      (Dave is an ENTJ. He's a little rough around the edges, but I think he's hilarious. Pretend he's House MD.)

      I would say that most of the time we seem cold or callous, we either have no idea it's happening (we are stuck inside our own heads), or we think we are being funny (even though you think we're not). I haven't met many of us who couldn't turn our attitudes around on a dime, like it had all been an act, with just a simple acknowledgement. That I believe is where the INFJ comes in. You have that special gift of actually listening, which is what we crave most. Not that everyone doesn't want to be heard, but because of our crazy ideas and random thought patterns, people usually stop listening to us. Most people can't actually follow along, but with very strong Ni (internal intuition), your primary function, you actually can. Conversely, ENTPs are really patient, and really good at picking up on environmental cues. Which means when you want time alone, or if you aren't ready to talk about something, we probably know. Er.. it's hard to explain the feelings and stuff, but here's a website with a picture of puppy to help me explain:
      https://www.buzzfeed.com/ilincavalentina/eight-reasons-infjs-and-entps-are-a-match-made-in-nf6k

      I hope that helps a bit. Laughter is the best medicine. Let me know if you have any questions!

      Additional Reading:
      http://personalitycafe.com/entp-articles/130170-caring-your-entp.html

      This post was edited by Baelan at October 10, 2017 10:52:35 PM PDT
    • November 14, 2017 10:57:10 PM PST
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      INFJ-ENFP vs. INFJ-ENTP

      The main point is to find a mature ENxP. You can have a lot in common with both types, but it burns down to how comfortable you are to open up and actually get to know the person.
      I think that ENTPs and INFJs can click very well. Yeah, we can seem a bit overbearing, it is our default mode to talk a lot (and I mean A LOT) whenever we are meeting someone new, but we mainly do it just to overcome all the awkwardness involved in introducing one another and then to jump-start the conversation as the introvert is rarely the one to speak up first. We really do it for your benefit. And while we can seem somewhat unstable on the outside, we have morals and are likely to value your emotions as long as you don't try to manipulate us (that simply doesn't work). But you might have to consider that we might be a little inconsiderate towards the general public at times. We can be loyal, we stick by you, but we have no qualms about being cold-hearted bastards to everyone else.

    • June 20, 2018 4:15:31 PM PDT
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      INFJ-ENFP vs. INFJ-ENTP

      You have GOT to meet an ENTP!! It's amazing and intoxicating! I've only recently become very interested in MBTI, and it's changed my life--everything makes sense now lol
      In my life I've had some incredibly close friendships--around seven best friends--and five of those best friends were INFJs (don't you guys make up like 1% of the population?!). Somehow we just attract each other!

      I really don't know how to explain a relationship with you guys. You just understand and you care and you listen and for some inexplicable reason you find us hilarious! We can talk intellectually or tease each other endlessly. I had an INFJ friend tell me once, "I feel like I could never get tired of you. It's always exciting even when its not." And, it's totally true! We could talk for hours and hours every day or even just not talk and not get bored of each other.
      HOWEVER, by the same token, since we can fall so deeply in love with you guys and we invest so much emotionally in each other, breakups can be really really painful (even friendship breakups lol). So its a risk you have to decide whether or not you want to take

      What do you mean by "morally consistent"? Though ENTPs can be pretty confrontational, we do care/consider others' emotions (if those emotions make sense logically); when we debate others its not to hurt others, it's to understand, to come to a solution, or to exercise our minds. It's fun to be the devil's advocate. We'll many times debate from the other side just because it's fun/an adventure not because we actually really believe it or agree with that side. Personally, I have very strong morals and values, and I have a good ENTP girlfriend who also has very firm beliefs about religion. However, we'll often debate about it, wanting to understand truth or just for the heck of it, it's not personal or determinative of moral fluctuation/abandonment, it's just fun. I thought INFJs liked philosophizing.

      Personally, I believe relationships between ENFP and INFJ are good but I think ENFP-INTJ is better. And ENTP-INFJ relationships are better than ENTP-INTJ relationships. I have two sisters, one is an ENFP and one is an INTJ. I feel that the ENFP sister gets along better with my INTJ sister than I do as an ENTP. Also, I've had many more INFJ friends than my ENFP sister and my friendships with INFJs have been very long-term whereas I feel that the friendships I've seen between ENFP and INFJ were more casual/less-committal. Idk. its just my opinion.

    • July 6, 2018 12:48:38 PM PDT
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      INFJ-ENFP vs. INFJ-ENTP

      You are so right...a warm hug from a nice INFJ liking ENTP based in Frankfurt
      A bientôt,
      Christoph (malheureusement sans 'e' a la fin :-)

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